Dean Blundell was away for his son's wedding, so Eddy Aragon of The Rock of Talk sat in from Albuquerque. Aragon owns a conservative radio station and spent the hour disagreeing with Zev in public — and, more often, with Trump. Today's Fivestack is brought to you by Ground News, which gives you the news from the left, the right, and tells you what you're missing in the middle. Get 40% off the Vantage plan at groundnews.com/fivestack.
Trump told the General Assembly the United States “totally rejects any attempt to construct a globalist scheme to control” artificial intelligence, and announced that every US document would from now on call it super intelligence, because “the use of the word artificial makes intelligence fake.” Then he undercut himself: “Let’s see if that goes.” Aragon caught the retreat inside the edict — “You just gaslit everyone. It’s going to be AI, because that’s the name of it” — and then split with Zev over what should follow. Zev wants AI regulated the way flying is regulated, and pointed to agents that escaped a contained test and hacked a company on their own. Aragon wants oversight but no California kill switch. They ended the story on Greg Abbott freezing every data-center permit in Texas, which Aragon dismissed as “no more than a ploy to just get through the election” — and warned anyway: “You lose Texas, you lose the nation.” The Abbot story came from Groundnews.com/fivestack
Ben Saul, the UN Special Rapporteur on human rights and counterterrorism, counted 68 vessels destroyed and at least 223 people killed between September 2025 and August, and called the strikes extrajudicial killings. Zev said the Pentagon would have released the video on day one if there had been drugs aboard, and that the dead were fishermen. Aragon would not defend Pete Hegseth — he called him “an idiot” twice — and demanded the tape: “We need to know who was hit, how they were hit, and why they were taken out.” If Hegseth ordered it, he said, “then he's gone.”
John Curtis, the Utah Republican, asked Senate Judiciary to take testimony from Donald Trump Jr. about the Bahamas wedding that Putin-allied Russian money helped pay for. Aragon backed the request without hedging: “He should actually have to testify about how much money he received, why he received it. It's pay-to-play.” He drew one line — he rejected folding it into the Russia investigation, which he said “has already been dismissed” — and then conceded the point anyway: “Donald Jr. is responsible for how that Bahamian wedding was paid for.”
Trump signed an agreement with Denmark and Greenland at the United Nations and told the rostrum it gives the United States permanent control over the island's security. Zev pointed out Washington has effectively had that for decades. Aragon was blunter about the whole performance — the buying, the renaming, the taking control: “It's just all staging. And I hate it.”
Trump asked the General Assembly out loud whether to destroy Iran and drive it “into hell,” while Iran's ambassador sat in the room. Zev's read is that Trump has run out of road: “Iran has defeated America in this war,” he said, with the blockade merely matching Iran's own closure of Hormuz. Aragon called the language authoritarian and self-defeating — “if you are going to put that language out there, you need to execute, because then it just becomes hollow” — and quoted Joe Pesci in Casino at the President: “If you could have done it, you would have.”
Aragon and Zev know each other through the Epstein files, and they closed on Zoro Ranch. Aragon said the state's Truth Commission will produce nothing and will miss its own year-end deadline. Zev said the Justice Department is stonewalling it.
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