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Today's guest is Rahul Raina, co-founder of TRM Labs, which is a YC-backed company that works on solutions and products for security, fighting criminal networks, AI attackers, and more.
With Rahul, we had a great chat that covered a lot of ground, starting with the tough reality of cyber defense today, and why attackers by default always have the upper hand when AI and technology improves. And then we moved to a deep dive into how the TRM team works and how they rebuild their whole product development workflow for AI, including reshuffling all the technical roles, compressing the developer process steps, and creating dedicated artifacts for human reviews.
🥇 Interview Summary
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Here is the agenda for today:
🛡️ The asymmetry of cyber defense
🔄 Inner loop vs. outer loop
🏗️ Redesigning the shipping framework
🧪 Building a culture of experimentation
🔍 Human review in an AI-driven workflow
⠀Let’s dive in 👇
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