Economics Matters by Laurence Kotlikoff Podcast David Barboza, a Brilliant, Informed, and Thoughtful China Expert, Discusses U.S.-China Relations. 8 2 1× 0:00 Current time: 0:00 / Total time: -1:05:31 -1:05:31 Audio playback is not supported on your browser. Please upgrade. David Barboza, a Brilliant, Informed, and Thoughtful China Expert, Discusses U.S.-China Relations. The Relationship has gone from Distant to Close and Now to Dangerous as the U.S. Faces Economic Irrelevance Larry Kotlikoff Mar 07, 2025 8 2 Share Transcript A few years back we were asking whether China could catch up with the U.S. This podcast with David Barboza -- one of our nation's top economic analysts, who spent years living in China while reporting for the New York Times -- asks the opposite. Can the U.S. catch up with China? If the answer is no, then picking a huge economic fight with China, let alone the rest of the world, makes no sense. Let me recite from David's bio. He's co-founder of The Wire Digital Inc. , a New York-based news and data platform focused on China and global supply chains. The startup consists of a digital weekly news magazine, called The Wire, and a data and software analytics platform named WireScreen . Previously, David was a longtime business reporter and foreign correspondent at The New York Times . In 2013, David was awarded the Pulitzer Prize for international reporting “for his striking exposure of corruption at high levels of the Chinese government, including billions in secret wealth owned by relatives of the prime minister, well-documented work published in the face of heavy pressure from the Chinese officials.” He was also part of the team that won the Pulitzer Prize for explanatory reporting, for his coverage of Apple’s operations in China. That same year, David won a George Polk Award for foreign reporting. David joined The Times in 1997 as a staff writer. He covered the stock market, and then served for five years as the Midwest business correspondent based in Chicago. He moved to China in 2004 as a business correspondent, and then, from 2008 to 2015, was the paper’s Shanghai bureau chief. In 2016, he was a visiting Nieman Fellow at Harvard University. Barboza won two awards in the Society of American Business Editors and Writers’ 2007 Best in Business Journalism Contest, one for a Times article, “A Chinese Reformer Betrays His Cause, and Pays.” He was also part of the team that won the 2008 Grantham Prize for environmental reporting for the series “Choking on Growth: China’s Environmental Crisis.” In 2002, he was part of a team that was named a finalist for a Pulitzer Prize for coverage of the Enron scandal. In 2008, David won The Times’s internal business award, the Nathaniel Nash Award. He has twice won the Gerald Loeb Award for business reporting. Barboza graduated from Boston University with a bachelor’s degree in history and attended Yale University Graduate School. Subscribe Share Make Your Own Money Magic Economic Matters - The podcast is hosted by Laurence Kotlikoff, a Boston University Economist, a NY Times Best Selling Author , President of maxifi.com , and Author of Money Magic . Stay Connected: Facebook , Twitter , LinkedIn Apple Podcasts Google Podcasts Spotify iHeart Amazon Music Discussion about this episode Comments Restacks Economics Matters by Laurence Kotlikoff Podcast Economics can make a massive difference - collectively and personally. Listen in as we chat with some of the most influential leaders in economics across the globe. Economics can make a massive difference - collectively and personally. Listen in as we chat with some of the most influential leaders in economics across the globe. Subscribe Listen on Substack App RSS Feed Appears in episode Larry Kotlikoff Recent Episodes Naill Ferguson, the Preeminent Economic Historian, Talks Geopolitics -- Yesterday's, Today's, and Tomorrow's Aug 10 • Larry Kotlikoff Jack Schibli of Lane Generational Explains Why the Stock Market Runs Largely on Autopilot and the Equity-Investing Danger this Presents Aug 2 • Larry Kotlikoff The Brilliant and Captivating Justin Wolfers Talks Economics and the Economy Jul 31 • Larry Kotlikoff Economics Matter's First Substack Live! Talking Social Security's Extreme Insolvency with Pam Krueger, Founder and CEO of Wealthramp, and… Jul 29 • Larry Kotlikoff Brilliant Investing Requires Thinking and Looking Outside the Box -- Steve Laffey Is an Extraordinary Investor. This is a Podcast You Can't… Jul 23 Economist John Goodman, Father of HSAs and One of America's Most Influential Policymakers, Talks US Healthcare Reform Jul 16 • Larry Kotlikoff Bruce Mehlman Joins Economics Matters to Discuss the Long-Term Economic Impact of the War in Iran, Geopolitics, Economic History, and His… Jul 2 • Larry Kotlikoff Sebastian Mallaby Returns to Discuss AI and his Latest Bestseller: The Infinity Machine. Jun 25 • Larry Kotlikoff