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Have You Tried Unplugging the AI?
Crooked Media · Crooked Media
Sep 19, 2026 · 17s listen · Last updated September 19, 2026
To understand the dissonance, Jon sits down with Helen Toner, the Executive Director of Georgetown’s Center for Security and Emerging Technology–and one of the OpenAI board members who voted to oust Sam Altman in 2023.
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